The bolt goes all the way back into the tang, which is probably why the gun is said to be bad about cracking stocks. I took the stock off today, and Gawdalmighty Remington went to a lot of trouble to make Model 10s! Every part inside is milled steel. I don't have any qualms about shooting 2 3/4" ammo in the thing, and the barrel looks beefy enough that any time I want to, I could give it a long forcing cone and ream the chamber out to 2 3/4" as part of the process. There's an "A" inside on the action, presumably the grade. The barrel just says Model 10, and has no gauge or chamber length markings. I double checked the serial number, and it's 190xxx. Let's call it 2 5/8" with an abrupt short cone. I measured the chamber on my Model 10, and it's just shy of 2 3/4" on my gauge. Prices for Model 17s were the same as Model 10s in the 1926 Edw. Actually Pedersen has so many patent applications filed in that 1919 time frame it is hard to tell which really apply! The Model 17 was only offered with plain or solid rib barrels. It was the patents on these improvements that forced Ithaca to wait until 1937 to bring out their copy of this gun, though Ithaca had actually built some guns by 1932. Pedersen made design refinements in 1919 (applications filed Sept. However, Remington was gearing up for WW-I at that time and it would be six more years before the gun came out. While production stopped in 1933, they were actually cleaning up and selling guns out of inventory until 1941. manufactured approximately 73,000 Model 17 20-gauge for 2 3/4 inch shells pump shotguns from 1921 to 1933. introduced their first 20-gauge pump, the Remington Model 17. only offered 12-gauge shotguns chambered for 2 3/4 inch shells, the Remington Repeating Shotgun/Model 10 pump and the Remington Autoloading Gun/Model 11 autoloader. Model 11 - Standard Grade - $77.50įrom 1910 to 1921, Remington Arms Co./Remington Arms - Union Metallic Cartridge Co./ Remington Arms Co., Inc. Model 12 - Trap Grade - $181.25 vent rib and extension slide handle Model 12 - Tournament Grade - $165.00 vent rib and extension slide handle Model 12 - Tournament Grade - $154.25 vent rib ![]() Model 12 - Trap Grade - $101.00 solid rib Model 12 - Tournament Grade - $82.25 solid rib Model 10T - "Target" Grade - $150.00 vent rib Model 10S - "Trap Special" Grade - $62.50 But, like the cocking levers on the front of the action of an LC Smith, that little flipper does work, although it doesn't look like it ever could. The fitting and timing of the little machined steel flipper on a Model 10 is incredible to watch. It's a testament to the skill of the Ilion workers that a Model 10 will function at all. A gas auto Super X One is another wonderfully simple piece of work.īut if you like complicated, the Remington Model 10 is way up on the list. I suppose the inertia action of the Benelli is an even more elegant way to have a shotgun repeat. In a perfect world, you'd have the barrel extension lock up of the 870 with action of a Model 37 Ithaca. You must remove the stock to take a Model 37 apart, but once you do that, I can't imagine how to design a pump shotgun with fewer or stronger parts,although those parts all have to be machined. All in all, an 870 is a very efficient design over 60 years after the first one was made.īut the absolute epitome of elegance of pump gun design has to be the Model 37 Ithaca, which I understand is basically a revised Remington Model 17. Yes, the trigger group is a collection of mousetrap looking punched out parts, and the shell lifter is punched out of sheet metal,but the damn thing works and works and keeps on working,and if it ever didn't work you could replace it yourself at home. The trigger group falls out when you punch out two pins. The bolt of an 870 just pops out the front to clean. They aren't going to ever get loose or shaky. ![]() ![]() Any barrel ever made for any of the millions and millions of 870's will fit the receiver of any other. The 870 has a lock up on the barrel extension. The more I mess with old guns, the more I appreciate the design of an 870. The Remington must have been a little cheaper, and even then folks loved a certain brand. But the Model 12 was so much slicker, so much better designed,I wonder how Remington managed to sell any Model 10s at all in direct competition with the Model 12. The Remington was every bit as well made and as well finished as the Winchester. I compared my 1920 Remington Model 10 last night with a 1927 Winchester Model 12 I own.
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